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		<title>Comment on AirPod Air Car Showing Off at Auto Show by fountainvalleycatransmissionservicerepair</title>
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		<dc:creator>fountainvalleycatransmissionservicerepair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While there might be a small niche market for these, air cars are really electric cars in a way in that electricity is used to create the compressed air that the car runs on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While there might be a small niche market for these, air cars are really electric cars in a way in that electricity is used to create the compressed air that the car runs on.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Hydraulic Hybrid 100 MPG Car in Hunt for X-Prize by fountainvalleycatransmissionservicerepair</title>
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		<dc:creator>fountainvalleycatransmissionservicerepair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Xprize has been inspiring great innovation in fuel mileage for cars as well as making autos that are consumer friendly as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Xprize has been inspiring great innovation in fuel mileage for cars as well as making autos that are consumer friendly as well.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Fisker Karma Debuts in San Jose, CA by fountainvalleycatransmissionservicerepair</title>
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		<dc:creator>fountainvalleycatransmissionservicerepair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 19:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of automotive development will satisfy a particular niche of customer who want power, styling and fuel economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of automotive development will satisfy a particular niche of customer who want power, styling and fuel economy.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 18:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You and many others keep making the classic mistake of thinking that the hydrogen in HHO is supposed to replace gasoline. People keep talking about volume and BTU’s as if the gasoline or diesel powered vehicle was supposed to run on hydrogen. It isn’t. 

Hydrogen has a lower flame speed and acts as a catalyst to help the fossil fuels burn more cleanly and completely. This is why only a small amount of hydrogen is needed. Hydrogen isn’t supposed to displace gasoline. A small amount of hydrogen causes a chain reaction with gasoline which burns more completely with less carbon deposits and runs cooler than without HHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You and many others keep making the classic mistake of thinking that the hydrogen in HHO is supposed to replace gasoline. People keep talking about volume and BTU’s as if the gasoline or diesel powered vehicle was supposed to run on hydrogen. It isn’t. </p>
<p>Hydrogen has a lower flame speed and acts as a catalyst to help the fossil fuels burn more cleanly and completely. This is why only a small amount of hydrogen is needed. Hydrogen isn’t supposed to displace gasoline. A small amount of hydrogen causes a chain reaction with gasoline which burns more completely with less carbon deposits and runs cooler than without HHO.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by bobferris</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobferris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear HHO Fan,

Unfortunately you are exactly the type of person Dennis Lee targets.  I suspect that when you pressed the send button that you were pleased with having made a cogent and well argued response.  The problem is that you didn&#039;t listen well enough in chemistry or physics class and have made the fundamental mistake of confusing liquids with gases.  

One liter of liquid diesel contains roughly 36500 BTUs and one liter of hydrogen gas contains 9.54.  Your first clue in all of this should be weight.  Pick up a liter of diesel or gasoline and you are moving about 8 lbs of fuel.  A liter of hydrogen is for all practical purposes lighter than air.

So going back to your 6 minutes, diesel is bringing 141437.5 BTUs to this fight and your hydrogen is bringing 114.48 or less than one tenth of a percent.  Those are the numbers you should be looking at.

As to displacing fuel, that is just not possible either.  Look at a simple 2.0 liter engine running at 3000 rpm.  That engine goes through 6000 liters of gaseous mixture a minute.  And you are telling me that by adding 2 magic liters or 0.03333% of the mix that you will see drastic changes.

There just isn&#039;t enough hydrogen produced to make any difference by a long shot.  This isn&#039;t even a very close race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear HHO Fan,</p>
<p>Unfortunately you are exactly the type of person Dennis Lee targets.  I suspect that when you pressed the send button that you were pleased with having made a cogent and well argued response.  The problem is that you didn&#8217;t listen well enough in chemistry or physics class and have made the fundamental mistake of confusing liquids with gases.  </p>
<p>One liter of liquid diesel contains roughly 36500 BTUs and one liter of hydrogen gas contains 9.54.  Your first clue in all of this should be weight.  Pick up a liter of diesel or gasoline and you are moving about 8 lbs of fuel.  A liter of hydrogen is for all practical purposes lighter than air.</p>
<p>So going back to your 6 minutes, diesel is bringing 141437.5 BTUs to this fight and your hydrogen is bringing 114.48 or less than one tenth of a percent.  Those are the numbers you should be looking at.</p>
<p>As to displacing fuel, that is just not possible either.  Look at a simple 2.0 liter engine running at 3000 rpm.  That engine goes through 6000 liters of gaseous mixture a minute.  And you are telling me that by adding 2 magic liters or 0.03333% of the mix that you will see drastic changes.</p>
<p>There just isn&#8217;t enough hydrogen produced to make any difference by a long shot.  This isn&#8217;t even a very close race.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by HHOfan</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve listened quietly to the arguments, and agree with most of the math and laugh at others. First, let us take a look at that &quot;small&quot; amount of HHO that does this incredible amount of work:

If you were driving a 18-wheeler that gets 6mpg at 60 mph. you would go thru a gallon of gas every 6 minutes, or every 6 miles. 1 US gallon of diesel = 3.875 ltrs per 6 minutes.

During that same 6 minutes, a decent HHO unit will produce at 20 Amps around 1.5 - 2.0 ltrs of HHO gas per minute. So with this math... we use 3.875 liters of diesel and enrich it with 9-12 liters of HHO gas. Pretty close to 3 to 1 anyway that you slice it.

It is so easy for people to overlook the power that is in an extremely small amount of diesel because they have accepted it and been around it all of their lives. We multiply that volume by 3, but people don&#039;t see that or even register it into their arguments.

I&#039;m used to hearing about the &quot;Laws of Thermo-Dynamics&quot; yes, they are valid arguments, but the gains in economy aren&#039;t because of the HHO gas alone. It is because of that large amount of fossil fuel that isn&#039;t burned in the combustion chamber. That is wasted BTU&#039;s of energy. By getting a better and more complete burn of your fossil fuels we are getting our efficiency. Our gains in Horse Power and fuel economy are coming from the fossil fuel that was previously wasted.

The other benefits that people don&#039;t recognize because they aren&#039;t in the industry is that HHO actually &quot;cleans&quot; the inside of the engines. Carbon and soot after 3-4 months nearly completely disappears from the inside of engines. Injectors become clean and spray better, valves actually begin to seat the way they should, and rings are no longer clogged. Your engine flows air thru it the way it did when it was new. That is why gains in fuel economy increase gradually over a few months after installing HHO on your equipment. No longer will EGR, and DPF&#039;s kill engines from soot and poor eficiency.

Enjoy the cleaner emissions thru better burning of the fuel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve listened quietly to the arguments, and agree with most of the math and laugh at others. First, let us take a look at that &#8220;small&#8221; amount of HHO that does this incredible amount of work:</p>
<p>If you were driving a 18-wheeler that gets 6mpg at 60 mph. you would go thru a gallon of gas every 6 minutes, or every 6 miles. 1 US gallon of diesel = 3.875 ltrs per 6 minutes.</p>
<p>During that same 6 minutes, a decent HHO unit will produce at 20 Amps around 1.5 &#8211; 2.0 ltrs of HHO gas per minute. So with this math&#8230; we use 3.875 liters of diesel and enrich it with 9-12 liters of HHO gas. Pretty close to 3 to 1 anyway that you slice it.</p>
<p>It is so easy for people to overlook the power that is in an extremely small amount of diesel because they have accepted it and been around it all of their lives. We multiply that volume by 3, but people don&#8217;t see that or even register it into their arguments.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m used to hearing about the &#8220;Laws of Thermo-Dynamics&#8221; yes, they are valid arguments, but the gains in economy aren&#8217;t because of the HHO gas alone. It is because of that large amount of fossil fuel that isn&#8217;t burned in the combustion chamber. That is wasted BTU&#8217;s of energy. By getting a better and more complete burn of your fossil fuels we are getting our efficiency. Our gains in Horse Power and fuel economy are coming from the fossil fuel that was previously wasted.</p>
<p>The other benefits that people don&#8217;t recognize because they aren&#8217;t in the industry is that HHO actually &#8220;cleans&#8221; the inside of the engines. Carbon and soot after 3-4 months nearly completely disappears from the inside of engines. Injectors become clean and spray better, valves actually begin to seat the way they should, and rings are no longer clogged. Your engine flows air thru it the way it did when it was new. That is why gains in fuel economy increase gradually over a few months after installing HHO on your equipment. No longer will EGR, and DPF&#8217;s kill engines from soot and poor eficiency.</p>
<p>Enjoy the cleaner emissions thru better burning of the fuel.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 16:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I am assuming that Ronn Motors has done road tests to determine MPG I read an article this morning that gave the details of what it looks like inside and out, plus a description of driving it.

Seems to me that most of the debate is between people who have never  had one installed then compared MPG with their &quot;before&quot; MPG. Of course you can do a bad job of installing it, but the link you gave before my first post should get you to someone who knows what they are doing.

I&#039;m pretty old school and determine my MPG by odometer and the amount of gas I put in when I fill up. That&#039;s all I need and don&#039;t really care about the &quot;science&quot; of it. 
Robert Fulton&#039;s steamboat didn&#039;t work either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I am assuming that Ronn Motors has done road tests to determine MPG I read an article this morning that gave the details of what it looks like inside and out, plus a description of driving it.</p>
<p>Seems to me that most of the debate is between people who have never  had one installed then compared MPG with their &#8220;before&#8221; MPG. Of course you can do a bad job of installing it, but the link you gave before my first post should get you to someone who knows what they are doing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty old school and determine my MPG by odometer and the amount of gas I put in when I fill up. That&#8217;s all I need and don&#8217;t really care about the &#8220;science&#8221; of it.<br />
Robert Fulton&#8217;s steamboat didn&#8217;t work either.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Dateline did not try to give a “fair and balanced” news report, which is not what they do. They take a position first and then try to prove their position. I think the Ronn Scorpion will be key in resolving this matter since it is so high profile. If it works as advertised this will put much debate to rest. 

If it doesn’t this will add another cloud over the whole HHO industry. But, no matter which way it goes Ronn Motors stands to be a high profile key player open to intense public scrutiny when they start rolling out their products.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Dateline did not try to give a “fair and balanced” news report, which is not what they do. They take a position first and then try to prove their position. I think the Ronn Scorpion will be key in resolving this matter since it is so high profile. If it works as advertised this will put much debate to rest. </p>
<p>If it doesn’t this will add another cloud over the whole HHO industry. But, no matter which way it goes Ronn Motors stands to be a high profile key player open to intense public scrutiny when they start rolling out their products.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by clay</title>
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		<dc:creator>clay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 14:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is If this is a scam and does not work, how did Ronn Motors deal with the new Scorpion? 

I have had dealings with Dateline on an entirly different field. They had their story before even contacting us and set about &quot;proving&quot; their story regardless of what they saw, heard or experienced. The only promise they didn&#039;t break was the time and date that they said they would come to interview us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is If this is a scam and does not work, how did Ronn Motors deal with the new Scorpion? </p>
<p>I have had dealings with Dateline on an entirly different field. They had their story before even contacting us and set about &#8220;proving&#8221; their story regardless of what they saw, heard or experienced. The only promise they didn&#8217;t break was the time and date that they said they would come to interview us.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Dateline NBC Declares HHO Industry a Scam by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 23:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a company that is legal in California.

https://www.hydrolectricpower.com/

The electrolyze water, separate the hydrogen and feed this into the ICE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a company that is legal in California.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.hydrolectricpower.com/" rel="nofollow">https://www.hydrolectricpower.com/</a></p>
<p>The electrolyze water, separate the hydrogen and feed this into the ICE.</p>
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